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Old 07-28-2010, 10:28 PM   #1
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Default Schabak Production Statistics & Grand Total

As I said in the other thread, during my compilation of the soon to be released version 2.0 of the Schabak list, I have for the first time created totals for each type which give some small insight into what Schabak produced in terms of the different variants.

This has enabled me to create a grand total of the number of Schabak variants ever made and I guess the theoretical number you should own to have a complete collection .

That number is 2324 models.

This breaks down as shown in the attached screenshot below per type:
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:03 PM   #2
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From the statistics it can be clearly seen that the Most important individual types are as follows:

1. Boeing 747-100/200
2. Boeing 747-400
3. Boeing 737-300/400
=4. Boeing 727
=4. Airbus A310
5. McDonnell Douglas DC-10
6. McDonnell Douglas MD80/90
7. Airbus A300
=8. Boeing 757-200
=8. Boeing 767-200

It is no surprise that the 747 comes out in the top two positions. Plane types that crossed the wheel type boundaries and had multiple moulds obviously fill out the other positions in the top 10.

Below are pie charts for Schabak Production by Major plane type (which further consolidates the 747s dominance) and by manufacturer. Over half the models made were by Boeing with MDD and Airbus taking equal shares and everyone else fighting over the remaining 14%.
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:20 PM   #3
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In terms of classic models Schabak made 155 variants of 9 types (not including the DC-8s which were mainly not vintage when they were made). Not surprisingly DC-3s and 707s make up the bulk of these. I wonder if Schabak would have ever made a Trident, VC10 or DC7 mould if they'd have carrie on - probably not

For regional types there are 120 variants from 9 types with Fokkers accounting for 34% and ATRs 28%. I assume the catalyst for the CRJs was their operation by Lufthansa which is why there never was an ERJ mould.

Anyway all these stats do highlight that Schabak made lots of versions of the same model as there is no way they made even 1000 actual plane/airline combinations. Still I am glad they updated the moulds and wheel types - though I could have done with less little changes and silly mistakes. Overall though I am glad to collect Schabaks (yes I have started to collect again ) and want to thank everyone who has helped Julian and myself to build up the Schabak list to where it is now.
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Old 07-30-2010, 05:59 AM   #4
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Interesting statistics. As most of you might know, my collection of some 250 models is rather small compared to others. But despite that, I did also find some variations that hadn't previously been included in the database within the last years (e.g. Malaysia 777-2 N777UA, Finnair A321 with the wrong-coloured flag and another LH A320 version). This shows how many different versions of Schabaks are around.
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Old 07-30-2010, 07:55 AM   #5
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(e.g. Malaysia 777-2 N777UA, Finnair A321 with the wrong-coloured flag and another LH A320 version). This shows how many different versions of Schabaks are around.
Malaysia 772 ID 1104
Finnair A321 ID 5192 (my question, is there a model with the correct flag)
LH A320 ???
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Old 07-30-2010, 11:38 PM   #6
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I`ve never seen a 737-400 or 737-500 mould from schabak, is the same mould or there is a length diference between both models?
I remember the F-100 is the same mould of F-70. The Tu-154 and Il-96 are smaller than the real models (I think they are in scale 1:650 or 1:700 ). What other moulds has these mistakes?
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I`ve never seen a 737-400 or 737-500 mould from schabak, is the same mould or there is a length diference between both models?
I remember the F-100 is the same mould of F-70. The Tu-154 and Il-96 are smaller than the real models (I think they are in scale 1:650 or 1:700 ). What other moulds has these mistakes?
Depending on the moulds they had available Schabak did this quite a lot. For example there are A310s and 767-300s that used the A300 and 767-200 moulds respectively before the proper moulds were made. There was even one Caravelle (SAT) that used the MD80 mould as at the time they didn't have a Caravelle!

Schabak never made an A330-200 mould so they are all on the A330-300 mould and later on they seemed to have lost the DC9 mould and so used the 717 for several DC-9s (as Schuco has done with the Austrian). Obviously all MD80s became MD90s when they made the MD90 mould and all 737-800s got winglets when that version of the mould arrived. Schabak were never good (and still aren't) at getting the details correct .

The 737-400 used either of the two available 737-300 moulds but had the extra overwing exit as part of the decals. The 737-500 however did have its own mould made - checkout the database. They even used the 737-500 mould for the one 737-600 (SAS) they made.

I am certain the TU154 and IL96 are supposed to be 1:600 scale - whether they are accurate is another thing but they are definitely supposed to be 1:600.
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Good information thanks.
I´m sure about the Tu-154 and Il-96 So I´ll measure them again to be sure about its real scale.
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Malaysia 772 ID 1104
Finnair A321 ID 5192 (my question, is there a model with the correct flag)
LH A320 ???
As I said, I found out about these models "within the last years", so I know they have been included in the database in the meantime:
LH A320 is ID22795, the photograph pictured is mine.
In summer 2005, I brought my Malaysia model with the UA reg to Schwanheim to have it "spotted" by Julian as I didn't have a digital camera in those days. There actually is a Finnair A321 with the correct flag. I've seen it as part of Kuempser's collection.
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Schabaks do vary a lot, I only have 49 models, and the EVA air MD-11 has the decals on backwards!
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Schabaks do vary a lot, I only have 49 models, and the EVA air MD-11 has the decals on backwards!
Yeah you'r right however I like to try and differentiate between mistakes (like your Eva Air) and true different variations (updated decals, different moulds, wheels, windows etc). The list has been bloated a bit by addition of some models which have decal application mistakes and missing decals (like Alitalia MD11s with missing winglet decals) which I don't think are true variants. I certainly don't see how decal application mistakes can ever be collected!

I am tempted to create a slimmed down list ignoring these untrue variants, however the line between them and true variants is very grey and the list is a compromise.

There are certainly missing models on the list. I was looking at my A300s last night and for example we only have two versions of the Luxair A300, one with big silver wheels and a type 3 with short undercarriage. There must be versions between the two, like a type 2 with small wheels, but if I haven't seen it then it doesn't go on the list.
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Oops I seem to have forgotten to include Fokker 50s on my list of all models (thanks for noticing Paul) so an updated list will be up soon and the new total number is 2341 models!

Plus Tony has sent me through some other new ones which will be appearing on version 2.1 of the list.
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